Brian & Lupe: Welcome to another episode of Sjogren’s Strong and I’m Brian.
Lupe: This is Lupe.
Brian: And I’m Brian.
Brian: Today we are joined by Dianne Sanders, who was into holistic medicine and alternative approaches and we are going to have a conversation with her to help better treat Sjogren’s Syndrome and the symptoms of. So welcome to the show, Diane.
Diane: Oh, thank you very much. Glad to be here.
Brian: We’re so happy you’re sharing a Saturday afternoon, when we’re recording this with us, uh, evening for you being on the east coast. So why don’t you start off by telling us a little bit about you and how you got into holistic approaches.
Diane: Yeah, definitely. I actually got into it about maybe about five years ago. And I started with my own personal health challenges. I had a thyroid issue, that I had started to investigate because I was going to need to take, some medicine for it. And I remember the words of my doc, when I went in and to get my blood work done. And him telling me that I was going to need to take this type of medicine for life. And, that was kind of shocking to me.
Diane: And I’m thinking, I don’t want to take something every single day of my life. And so at the time I started to investigate what other alternatives there were out there for me. And I had a friend of mine that was into essential oils and she had invited me to a class and so I went with her and, um, I started to ask some questions about my particular circumstance and what essential oils might work with them.
Diane: And they were given… there was like three different oils that were given to me. And so I went in and tried those on and I would apply them topically. And I did it day and night. I did that for about three months. Uh, and I went back to my doctor and got my blood work done and my thyroid had kicked in. And so I was just so amazed at how that had worked. As a biology major, I now had to investigate this. I had to go full bore on why these oils work and how my body worked with them.
Brian: Okay. I’m going to interrupt you for a second.
Brian: So you’re applying essential oils – three, to I’m assuming your throat, being closest to your thyroid.
Brian: And it allowed you to come off of thyroid medication that was prescribed by a doctor?
Brian: Alright. I’m going to let you pick up where you left off, but we’re definitely going to circle back because I want to understand what those three were? What you found with your research, a great understanding of biology. So I’m sorry to interrupt.
Diane: That’s all right. That’s all right. Anytime. So, you know, once I started to see how they worked, I actually started to now share it with my, with my friends and family, when they would come up with things that they had going on with their health. I would investigate, open up my reference material and just provide uh, you know, what was in the reference material for their particular needs. And most of the time, they would work.
Diane: And I would be just so amazed because I wanted to be the skeptic. I’m like, okay, it says here at work, I don’t know, here you go, try. And I was just so amazed by that. So I decided it in some different circumstances and some different, uh, testimonials that I had with folks to now have that become part of my life journey – to learn more about this and to share it with people. So, here’s where I am today and I like to be able to be – my tagline is “The Health Detective”. And so I like to be able to help people. To be that health detective in their situation to find the root issues or their problems.
Brian: That is very cool!
Lupe: Wow. Brian and I are looking at each other like what?
Brian: So, will you share with us with these essential oils are that helped you get off your thyroid medication.
Diane: Yeah! They were Myrrh, lemongrass, and the last one – uh, so it’s Myrrh, lemongrass, clove. Clove was the last one. So it was… I applied topically and it was just two drops of each of those that I would put on my throat. And I would also put it on the reflexology point on my feet, where the thyroid is located. And I would do that morning and night.
Brian: And all – two drops of each of these three oils, applied at the same time, to the two locations?
Diane: To the two locations. And something that I have to mention is that the purity of the oil is very important. You can’t just go to your local Walmart or Best Buy or even the health food store and find that quality of the oil. You have to have something that has been tested not just the normal GCMS testing. But way more than that, to really get the most effect out of it.
Brian: That’s very interesting. Um, I know a couple of people with thyroid issues and they’re now going to become my Guinea pigs, if I have to buy them myself. We’ve actually played with essential oils in a diffuser. And what we’re doing is lemon. Because that citric… the scent of the citric acid, triggers saliva production and causes us to continually sip water as well, which obviously helps with dry mouth and Sjogren’s.
Lupe: What solutions can you suggest for dry eyes? Are there any?
Diane: Oh, well, definitely. We have to think, first of all… what are composed of? Well, they’re composed of water, mucus, fatty oils, and a thousand other proteins that are there to lubricate the eye.
Diane: And so when, when these things become imbalance, that’s where that’s leading to dry eyes. So, what can you help with that balance? Now, some suggestions that, I would give with the essential oils… and first I want to make a statement – make sure everybody understands that you don’t ever put essential oils inside of your eyes. Okay? That, first of all is was very irritating and it can cause damage. So make sure essential oils are not put inside of the eye.
Diane: Now, if it does get inside of the, eye, I always tell people this little disclaimer, just go ahead and put like a regular vegetable oil or maybe like an olive oil or corn oil, whatever, on a napkin and just wipe your eyes. Right away that that’ll get that sting out of your eyes.
Diane: But, the best way to really help your eyes is through steam inhalation. And what you can do, is you can get a large bowl and get some hot water… boil the water first, then put it in the bowl. Get a towel, and then get, like, a gentle essential oil – like lavender or lemon, which she mentioned that you use. You can put 2 -3 drops of the oil in the bowl. And then just put your face over the bowl, put the towel over your head and over the bowl. So now you’re getting the steam on your face. That’s, that’s a good a way to get help with the eyes and get the oils in the eyes without actually putting it there.
Diane: Another thing you can do is, like making like a cooling gel with some Aloe Vera. And apply the essential oils to that. As well, adding just a couple of drops to that.
Diane: You can do like a milk compress… you can get a cup of full fat milk. You want the fat in the milk, there, add the essential oils to it, and then you can get maybe some cotton pads. Dip it in there and just apply it to… close your eyes and put those cotton pods on your eyes and leave it there for about 10 minutes. That can help a lot.
Diane: And another thing that I have found helpful with that, and it doesn’t have to do with essential oils, but with coconut oil. Coconut oil, having that fatty oil. And you can actually put coconut oil inside your eyes. Here’s something that you can put inside.
Diane: And there have been some studies that show that the fatty acids have coconut oil, they provide that protective layer. And that can help keep the eyes moist.
Diane: And of course, eating a lot of Omega 3 rich foods will help a lot with that.
Lupe: Yeah, I’ve heard of Omega 3. Now. Do you do this daily? A couple of times a day?
Diane: I would do it… especially with Sjogren’s, where you’re suffering from that daily, I would do it daily. And even, you in the morning and later on in the evening I would do it.
Brian: That’s interesting. I never about compresses on the eyes to help with dry eyes.
Diane: Oh yeah. And with essential oils… see oil and water don’t mix, right? And we know that from, from high school. But what water will do to oil is drive. And so if you put… maybe dab oils around your eyes and then put a compress over it… it will drive those oils into the area, there. And it’ll make sure that it is absorbed a lot quicker.
Brian: So does this practice add moisture to the eye or does it help your body produce tears?
Diane: It’s gonna do both things. It’s gonna add that moisture… and depending on what… which one of the things that I mentioned that you’re doing. But mostly what we’re trying to do is to help repair and maybe restore some of that… those tears.
Brian: In addition to the lemon in the diffuser, what we’re doing to help with dry mouth, are there any other suggestions for dry mouth that I’m either essential oils or any other holistic approach might help?
Diane: You know with the lemon… I don’t what made you get started with using the lemon essential oils, but you know there have been studies that have shown that there’s a constituent that’s called the delimoning that is in the essential oil blend and in most citruses. That delimoning is the one that has actually been studied to help repair the salivary glands and to help produce the saliva.
Diane: And there’s even other oils. I mean, most of the citruses have the delimoning in them. But also, like black pepper has it. And we’re talking to essential oils here. Black pepper, spearmint and dill. These are oil that have that constituent in it.
Diane: And what’s amazing… there’s this study that was done in Stanford that, they were able to show that delimoning was stopping the trigger that caused salivary stem cells to self-destruct.
Diane: So, this is amazing, because the majority of autoimmune diseases are about the body attacking itself, right? There’s a failure to communicate properly between the cells. And if we can clear that communication, the body can heal itself. So what oils have the most delimoning is what we’re trying to look for.
Diane: And again, I mentioned before about the purity of the oil… is so important here. And I’ve done a lot of research with different essential oil companies and I’ve chosen personally, myself to use it from a company called DoTERRA. Because there’s really no other company that does the amount of testing that DoTERRA does to ensure that purity.
Diane: So that’s going to be tops. And also knowing that this company goes to the country where the plant grows the best. So therefore, the oil is going to be that much more therapeutic.
Diane: So keeping that in mind, now thinking, you know, what oils have the citruses have the most delimoning in it? Because if that can help repair the salivary glands, that’s what we’re headed for. So grapefruit… grapefruit is at the top of the essential oils with delimoning in it. It’s got 92%, delimoning in grapefruit.
Diane: Followed by wild orange, which has 90%. Then lemon, which has 70%. Lime has 65% and Bergamo has 30%. So, knowing that these oils have this constituent in it, now you know you can switch it around when you’re doing teas are drinking, & putting it into your water and even diffusing them.
Brian: That’s really interesting. I have an off the wall question. Are essential oils pure enough or is there anything that can harm you if they’re ingested?
Diane: It depends on where you’re getting your essential oils. If you are going to the local big box store, here. I would never ingest an oil from one of those stores. And one of the ways where you can see how pure your oils are… if you look at a bottle of essential oil and if you don’t see a supplement fact label from the FDA on it, do not adjust it. Because if that label is not on there, it means that the company has not done their testing. And they’re not going to put themselves out there for a suit and say, ingest this when they haven’t done their testing.
Brian: Gotcha. You were rattling off like dill. And I’m like, Ooh, do pickle. Drop a drop of essential oil on my tongue and be happy.
Brian: That would help.
Brian: I enjoyed dill quite a bit.
Lupe: I started using um, a lemon in the diffuser because I think I had, I don’t know… eating lemon or something and I produced a lot of saliva and I think that’s how it started. I’m not sure that.
Brian: Well that, and we will put lemon concentrate a couple drops in water, just to help promote the salivary production.
Diane: Yeah. So now you know why you produce saliva. It’s because that constituent that’s an in lemon. And by the way, there are hundreds of constituents in an essential oil. Delimoning is just one of them. But it is such a strong constituent, for your need that you were able to see that result when you drank it.
Brian: And this delimoning is in the actual fruit, so consuming the fruit can help, obviously. Correct?
Diane: It is in the fruit, the pulp itself. But it’s there at a greater degree in the actual skin of the fruit. And because essential oils, especially from the citruses are cold press from the skin, not the pulp. Now you have a concentrated form of the constituent.
Brian: Right! That makes sense.
Lupe: Are there any lotions or bath additives that will help?
Diane: Yeah, you definitely want to use as many modalities as you can with the essential oils.
Diane: So, when I say modalities, I’m talking about aromatically, topically and internally. So if we’re talking about lotions here, you need to first of all find yourself a good quality lotion that’s not going to have paraphin, no toxins.
Diane: And you want it to be scent free because you’re going to be adding essential oils to it. And so then you can switch the essential oils around. You know, we talked about the different ones, the grapefruit, the wild orange, the lemon, the lime, the bergamot.
Diane: You can switch those around in your lotion, that way you’re confusing the toxins in your body, so they don’t know what’s hitting them. You know when you’re switching… I always recommend that you switch up the oils. You don’t just use the same thing over and, over and, over again. But switch them up. You know, confuse those bad guys in your body of what’s coming in. And then try something new every time.
Lupe: Just like when coaches say, you know, do something else, confuse your body. Yeah, that makes sense!
Lupe: So you put the drops in the actual lotion? Or like when you squeeze it little in your hand?
Diane: Yeah, you can actually make your own – kind of a do it yourself thing. Get a 2 oz jar or a bigger one and then, you know, already prepare it. Pre-prepare it and even mix up some of the oils in there. Not just lemon or not just lime. But mix it up with maybe a little peppermint, a little of grapefruit lemon. Because with the interesting thing with essential oils… in Math one plus one is two, but with oils one plus one can equal five. Because of the oils working together. All those compounds can give you so many benefits.
Lupe: Interesting. Are there any lotions that you would recommend.
Diane: Other than the ones preparing yourself that all, like I just mentioned? I don’t have any off hand that I could tell you, you know, go by this.
Lupe: Gotcha. Okay.
Brian: Is there a base that you could recommend? I mean, I’m assuming when you’re doing this for a medical approach – t’s probably a pretty bare boned lotion. Very little scent or anything like that?
Diane: Correct. Correct. Yeah. So, um, you could also use… If you’re out looking for a lotion like that… but you could also use coconut oil. An organic coconut oil or fractionated coconut oil.
Diane: You can use things like a jojoba of oil or almond oil. Even olive oil. But the reason I liked like fractionated coconut oil is that it doesn’t go rancid. You don’t have to worry about it sitting there for a while. And with the fractionated it doesn’t turn hard or anything like that, with the change of the weather. So you know, you can do that easily.
Brian: Okay. Do you have any customers that you’re aware of… You might not be, that suffer from Sjogren’s or maybe Lupus?
Diane: Not Sjogren’s. I actually had to do some investigation on it when I was talking to you. But Lupus, yes. And I’ve definitely had people with other autoimmune disease, Hashimoto’s, and even Fibromyalgia.
Diane: They’re saying there can be a connection to autoimmune disease. And I’ve dealt with, with folks with that. And what I found that helped them most, because I’ve found that many of these diseases have a direct correlation with candida. And so I have found that doing a cleanse of the filtering organs with essential oil infused supplements has helped a lot. And doing this for like 10 days and then taking a break for 10 and then doing it again. I’ve had some really good results with that
Brian: And for those that might not know, including me, what is Candida?
Diane: Candida is a yeast that we have in our system and it’s normally… we all have it. But it can get out of control and when we’re… just because of diet is where it becomes out of control. And when it does that, it can cause many different reactions to us. We have that white tongue. We can have digestive issues. We can have metabolic issues. And so that has also been related to why the body might be attacking itself…. when that yeast overgrowth happens.
Brian: That’s good to know.
Lupe: What are your thoughts on CBD oil?
Diane: Alright, CBD! Might thoughts might be little controversial with some folks, on this. And I do believe it works, I really do. But again, depending on the purity of the oil. Knowing what you’re getting. Right now it’s become so popular, You’re seeing it all over the Internet and marketing going on with it.
Diane: But getting a good, pure CBD, it could work. But I think that there are better oils, essential oils to use. Let me explain, CBD works on the endocannabinoid immune system. Memories, appetite, sleep, mood and pain. And this system really wasn’t discovered – not too long ago. It was discovered in the 80’s, when they were testing marijuana for health benefits. And they discovered this system that they had never known about.
Speaker 2: And so I like to explain how the cells work in the system because then you’ll understand my thoughts on CBD. The salivary receptors work in a lock and key method. So if you don’t have the key, the cell’s not gonna unlock the doors. Okay? So nothing can come in and nothing can go out.
Diane: Now THC and CBD are lock pickers, if I can use that phrase. They’re lock pickers, like a thief in the night. And so they’re are lock pickers of the endocannabinoid system. And they can open the lock, but because they don’t belong there, they’re going to leave a footprint. You know, hallucinations, sleep issues, weight gain, digestive issues, etc.
Diane: But when you’re in a lot of pain and all you have is a lock picker, you got to use it, there’s no judgment there. But there’s a compound that works with the same system and is actually a key, not a lock picker. It’s an actual key. It belongs there. It leaves no footprints. And that’s beta-caryophyllene, which is termed BCP. And there’s an essential oil that is called copaiba that has over 55% of this compound. And it has shown incredible results. So I prefer that over CBD, but you have to use what works for you. Because you’re really, you’re your own health detective.
Brian: Right? Going back to what you said about certain essential oils work best with other essential oils, in conjunction with. Is there a flow chart or some sort of information? I understand that everybody’s body is different and is going to react differently. But a roadmap to try oil-A, with oil-B, in a certain quantity and then make adjustments from there. Is there some sort of information out there available that would help somebody choose which oils to purchase and try?
Diane: Yeah. It’s definitely. When you get essential oils, is definitely good to get a reference book, that goes with it. You know, every time that I worked with people with essential oils, it’s not just here are essential oils, used them. It’s here’s essential oils, but here’s also a reference book that goes with it. Because that way you can look at the essential oil, you can see what it works with. And it’ll even tell you, you know, this works best with this oil. This works best with that. Oil and essential oils also come in, what they call top notes, middle notes and base notes. And so, in some cases it can be a sign in and blending them in. And others, it just, I’m just looking up, what works best with which. With what, with what other oil?
Brian: You know, I grew up in a very religious home and eastern… I guess I shouldn’t confuse religion with eastern versus western medicine. However, you know, the, what the doctor said was the rule. And you took your meds and you were a good boy.
Brian: Our exploration into alternatives is new to us. I guess we’ve been playing and experimenting for maybe a little over a year.
Lupe: Yea, it’s been a while.
Brian: But I want to say it’s our own ignorance where we haven’t purchased a book. We haven’t dove into it. We’ve listened to people and we’ve tried things. And I think we’re not giving it to do justice to see if there’s an actual outcome. Does that make sense?
Diane: Yeah. Yeah. I know that there can be that feeling of overwhelm. You know, we are in an information age. And it’s just so much out there And then we say – oh, we want to try that. OH, we want to try that. Oh, we want to try that. And getting down to the nitty gritty of it, is the part that we’re missing.
Lupe: What are your thoughts on teas to make… um, to help relieve the symptoms of Sjogren’s?
Diane: Well, the tea? Again… I talked about the different, citrus oils… are going to be the key ones. And in making the tea. When you’re making… with essential oils, you boil your water for the tea. You don’t ever put the essential oil while you’re boiling the water because that changes the whole chemistry of the essential oil. So what you do is you make your water and then you put it in your cup. You let it cool down a little bit, and then you add two to three drops of the oils to it.
Diane: And again, you know, I would concentrate on the citruses and maybe like the peppermint oil in there. But this also kind of – now that we’re talking about teas and drinks… this reminds me about mentioning, you know, how to drink your liquids. And especially water.
Diane: With autoimmune, one of our goals is to help our liver filter properly. There’s toxins and stuff that’s duct up our system, that’s not allowing ourselves to communicate properly. So at least once a day I recommend gulping water instead of sipping. Gulping it.
Diane: And the reason for that is that when we have more water than we need to operate, the body responds by flushing more water out along with the toxins, to make sure that the correct amount stays within the body. So gulp one of your eight ounces of water that you drink a day. Take that as quickly. And I would say like the, the first, first cup of water you drink in the morning, you should gulp that.
Lupe: That makes sense, actually.
Brian: I’ve also heard that your first cup of water should be consumed quickly. But it should also be ice cold because that shocks your digestive system. And increases your metabolism right off the bat. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Diane: Um, I’ve heard that was not something that I use. I wouldn’t use an oil that will do that naturally. Like peppermint. Peppermint is, is an oil that naturally opens up the airways. That naturally gives you more energy. So if you want to, kind of quote-unquote shock your system, I would use peppermint oil in the morning with your water.
Brian: You know, I love the smell of peppermint. And I think I’ve run it in the diffuser a couple of times, but…
Lupe: Oh yeah, peppermint is good for so many things.
Brian: Yeah, I don’t no. Candy canes, that’s what comes to mind.
Lupe: I think he’s hungry. What do you think? Dill pickles… and?
Brian: So, with my background of western medicine rules… what’s one of… And maybe not crazy off the wall to you or your community, but maybe something you’ve suggested somebody try that was received just wildly. What is something off the wall that you might’ve experienced?
Diane: Well, I don’t have something that is, off-off the wall, but I remember I had a fellow with PTSD. Not under this autoimmune disease here, but the effects on the body were just as strong for him. He couldn’t leave his home, couldn’t work. Had problems with sleep, depression, digestive issues.
Diane: And I had him do three back to back cleanses. I had rest a little bit between the cleanses. But three back to back cleanses. And then, kind of in the meantime, we using the essential oils for the different symptoms that he had. But we needed to get to what was going on in the gut with them. And I taught his wife how to do this special massage with the essential oils is eight different essential oils, that I had her do along his spine, along the brainstem.
Diane: On the head. And on the feet. And I had her doing that three times a week. They did this for about four months. And later on, I get a call from him… Just one afternoon… I live in Virginia and he gives me a call from, from… and he lives in Virginia too. And he gives me a call from New York and he had traveled out there. He drove and they were touring something out there and he was just euphoric. They had just been able to do this. And I’m so excited. And he still that way today. And then that was two years ago.
Brian: You said his chief complaint was PTSD?
Diane: His was PTSD, yep! . And because he hadn’t been in the military, or anything like that. It just something in his life that triggered this. And it just had continued to escalate through the years to the point where it became now, debilitating.
Brian: I know when we were emailing back and forth the conversation of opioids came up and what can you tell us there?
Diane: Well, there’s a lot of abuse going on now with the opiates. And it’s become an epidemic, with people using that to relieve the pain. There’s so much inflammation, so much going on with the body now that people are finding their relief in that.
Diane: But the problem is with that, that’s just, that’s just a mask. It’s a covered. What’s at the root. Again, you know, with my tagline to help detective, you’re never getting to the root. And so you try for, if you’re using it for pain relief, pretty soon it won’t work as it did as strongly as it did in the beginning. And you’re having to find something that’s stronger and stronger and stronger.
Diane: Whereas, with essential oils, they naturally work with the body, for really all types of things that can come up. I mean there’s a plant, there’s a leaf, a flower, a stem, a route for just about anything that you can think of. And it’ll naturally… like I said, it’s a key to the lock, naturally, with your body without all these side effects.
Brian: So ,the use of essential oils in some people can actually reduce the need for opiates or help wean them or help get them off of it completely?
Diane: It can help wean them. And again, I tell people, you have to work hand in hand with your doctor on this. You can’t… I wouldn’t ever tell somebody to just stop taking their meds, ah, stop taking whatever they’re doing. They have to talk to the doctors. Tell them, this is what I’m trying to do. I’m trying to do this naturally and I want to be able to wean myself off of these meds. And in that way the oils…. we were looking for the oils to help and even reverse certain situations.
Brian: That’s interesting. What would be the one book you would suggest somebody start with?
Diane: There is a book that’s called Modern Essentials… that is a real… if you’re a science based and you are a science geek like myself, that’s a good one. But it’s a good reference one. It’s not meant to be read from cover to cover. That’s a good one. There’s another one that’s called Oil Life, and that’s for the less sciency one. It’ll give you everything you need to know on the different systems in your body. How the oils can work with it and what to use it for.
Diane: And also helping you…. you’re using the oils for your body, but you also want to use it for all the stuff you use around yourself. You know, like in cleaning. You got to get rid of all those things with Clorox and all those things with the toxins.
Diane: Because what we’ve learned from essential oils is that when you inhale something, it goes in your brain within 30 seconds. And it can go throughout your entire body, within an hour and a half.
Diane: So imagine all those chemicals that you’re using around your house, that you think that is clean. You are absorbing all of those things. Things you put on your on your body, on your face, on your hair. You have to… We have to be very careful. And I actually recommend that my clients to get an app. It’s a free app. It’s called Think Dirty. They’re able to… when they’re shopping for their products on that… scan the product and it’ll give them on a scale of 1-10, how toxic that particular product is. And sometimes you can go to a store and it says, oh paraben-free all natural and all that. And then you scan it and they have failed to tell you about some other things on there that are causing harm to your body.
Lupe: That’s just what they put on the label so they can sell it.
Brian: Yeah. Exactly.
Lupe: Is there anything you recommend? I feel like for me personally… this is for me. I feel like, um, lately I feel like I’ve been gaining weight. And I’ve been eating healthy… healthier. And I still feel like I’m gaining weight. Is there anything you’d recommend for inflammation?
Diane: Yeah. And usually the weight gain, even though when you’re trying to do everything right. You’re exercising. You’re drinking water and you’re eating right. And still not able to lose weight. That’s a metabolic issue. And so working to be able to balance the metabolism is a key thing.
Diane: And we have some blends that work with the metabolism that have, again, grapefruit,. Grapefruit is such a powerful oil in being able to take care of that. Um, but also, you know, movement is a big thing. We know we have a system in our body that’s called the lymphatic system. And it’s the one that takes all the waste out of our, our bodies. The cell area, whatever the cells dumped into the bloodstream. The lymphatic system takes out. But that system doesn’t have an organ. The only way that that system works is if you move. And so I tell people, okay, so you can’t run and you can’t do, you know, that kind of stuff. We’ll get a little rebounder. Get on a rebounder 10 minutes a day. Just a little bounce up and down, to move that system. That can help your metabolism kick in. There are essential oils that work very well in helping you with that.
Lupe: Interesting. Okay. Yeah… I work, you know, behind a desk nine hours a day. And then, you know, by the time I get out I say, oh, I’m going to do this. I’m going to go to the gym, and sometimes I, you know, I get kind of lazy and so yeah, you’re right about that.
Diane: Yeah. Yeah. I love the rebounder, because you can just stand in front of your TV watch your, when you’re watching The Voice or something like that. And just bounce for 10 minutes. You can do that twice a day. And not jump up and down and that just a little bounce. That’s going to help get all that stuff out of your body. It’s also going to help with digestion. Because it’s gonna help move stuff along your intestines. It’ll help cardiovascular. You’ll get a little bit of a sweat going on. So,
Brian: When you were evaluating somebody to recommend a product or a range of products, do you take into consideration their diet? What they’re consuming on a daily basis?
Diane: Oh, for sure. I mean, diet is a huge factor in disease. And, uh, you know, I need to know what they’re eating. I want to see lots of vegetables and juices, smoothies. I would want to see organic, minimal GMO, minimal sugar, if possible. And a good supplementation. I mean, doctors are seeing that even if we eat well today… if we’re eating organic, we’re not getting all the vitamins and minerals that our parents or grandparents used to get. So, when I interview, I wanna know. I want to see, what they’re taking on a daily basis in order to recommend anything.
Brian: Awesome. So why don’t you tell our listeners, what is the best means to get a hold of you? Would you prefer web contact or…
Diane: Yeah, and the best way to get a hold of me… you have my email address, which is firstname.lastname@example.org. And Diane is spelled D-I-A-N-E and Dianeseos is D-I-A-N-E-S-E-O-S.com. And you can get a hold of me through my website which is www.dianeseos.com.
Brian: Excellent. And we will have links in the show notes and description for this show for everybody online. And what parting words might you want to leave us with?
Diane: Well, don’t do everything at once. I have to emphasize that. As you start finding things out there… because you are desperate to get healthy and so it’s important that you get all this information, you don’t get overwhelmed with everything. Because then nothing gets done right. Take seasons to focus on just a couple of things,, maybe 3-4 months and become an expert at just those things. Don’t look at anything else, just those couple of things. Do your research. Hire a health coach, who’s an expert in that area that can help you. And then see how you feel. Then the next season, try something else. You know, the combination of those things can only help you improve your situation.
Brian: Well, that’s great advice. We appreciate you coming on Sjogren’s Strong and your time
Lupe: When you have an autoimmune issue like Sjogren’s Syndrome that has no cure, I encourage you to keep an open mind and try things outside of your comfort zone. Obviously, talk to your doctor and see what his
New Speaker: opinions may be. Do your research, make a decision and try things slowly. But with no care for Sjogren’s Syndrome, I don’t see the harm in trying alternative remedies.
Brian & Lupe: Thank you for joining us for another episode of Sjogren’s Strong.
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