Lupe: Welcome to another episode of
New Speaker: Sjogren’s strong.
New Speaker: This is Lupe
Brian: And this is Brian, and this is your weekly podcast discussing how to live an active and healthy lifestyle despite a diagnosis of Sjogren’s syndrome.
New Speaker: And today we have a very special guest and I had the privilege of visiting her wellness center.
Brian: And that would be Miss Penny Foskaris and full disclosure, Penny is a client of mine and she was kind enough to invite us to her brand new wellness center in Anaheim Hills, California. And she’s got tons of cool stuff to help you feel better. And Penny, I’m going to let you talk about it.
Penny: Thank you so much for having me on the show today. And uh, I do want to share with your listeners that my mom has Sjogren’s Syndrome. She’s had it for about three years and um, we just try to help as much as we can with nutrition and keeping her hydrated because that’s a very, very important also, um, to stay hydrated.
Penny: So yeah, we’ve got some really, really cool things in the center. So excited. Uh, we officially opened today actually, and
Lupe: woo woo woo.
New Speaker: And so Brian and Lupe, yes. You did get to come in and a, I know that you tried out some of our, uh, light and sound therapy goggles, the PSiO along with the Energizing Mat’s. So what was your take on that? How’d you guys like that?
Brian: Both of us experienced the PSiO goggles and I actually startled myself waking up snoring while I was, uh, had the goggles on and it was really, it did relax me. I found my mind wandering, trying to think of something relaxing. And then the next thought that came into my mind was what do I do with my hands? And it was just really weird. But then I…
Lupe: What did they do you do with your hands?
Brian: I actually put my hands in my pockets.
Brian: I don’t know why, but it felt right, and I relaxed, and I actually fell asleep and it was soothing and calming, and I don’t know, I, I dug it
Lupe: For me. Um, I think it took me a little while to relax maybe a couple of minutes, but after I relaxed, I mean it was really calming and I, I don’t know, I was picturing myself hiking in the clouds if you could believe it and I don’t know cause maybe hiking, this is my happy place, but um, it was really calming and relaxing and I don’t know, it just takes all your stress away.
Brian: And Penny you have how many, how many beds? Chairs?
Penny: So we have uh, two beds with the energizing mat’s, which you had to put the PSiO on at the same time, which is what you experienced, I think the bed. And then you were on the, on the, on the chase lounge, I believe. Lupe?
Lupe: Yes. Yes, correct. Yes.
Penny: We have two chase lounges and we have with the mats and we do the PSiO as well there. And then the two beds and then we also have a personal infrared sauna and you can sit in there as well while you’re doing the PSiO goggles. It’s a combination of just all these different modalities together that energizes and actually relaxes the body as well and as little as 15 minutes. That’s what I had you on. Actually. We have programs that are as little as 10 minutes. And what’s amazing with that is that it helps people with all kinds of different things that they’ve, that they have.
Penny: And even, um, I’ve experienced with people who had PTSD as well and it’s been very helpful to them and sad and uh, just everyday stresses, right? We all have so many things going on and we can’t shut down our brain. I used to have a hard time.
Penny: People would say, Penny, meditate, sleep, right. Meditate. I’m like, okay, I’m going to try. I’m closing my eyes and um, I got to do laundry. Oh my God, the gets up homework. Okay, I can’t do this. And so with, with these goggles been is really amazing. They truly are. They been clinically used in Belgium for over 20 years, so cool stuff. So that’s, that’s, that’s the relaxation room. And then we also have on the other side, we have a the weight loss side, which we have these lights that we wrap the body. We can do six body parts in time and actually literally melts the fat it liquefies the fat and it gets a cell where it’s permeable and the fat can actually escape. And we’re having people lose five pounds in a little as 10 to 14 days. And that’s like pure fat, no water. And they’re actually gaining muscle.
Lupe: That’s amazing. I want to try that. And Penny, she showed us the before and after pictures. It’s amazing to look at.
Brian: And these were before and after pictures of a male client.
Brian: She also has this other really cool device and it’s a turntable that you stand on and you get precise laser? Infrared?
Brian: Penny, talk about your business cause I don’t know it, it was just cool.
Penny: It’s a, it’s a digital LED light. Actually. you stand, the scanner spins around. It’s called Styku, S. T. Y. K. U. And in about two minutes we have all of your body measurements from your neck down to your calves. And what I like about that is that no one can say it and you can’t say, oh my God, it was it right or not. Was there a finger in the way? Right when you measure with tape, it’s hard to tell if it’s accurate. So I invested in a machine but I also have to show the results is a body composition analysis machine. And what’s amazing about the test client that I showed you guys was that he pretty much lost the five pounds of solid fat. And what blew my mind was that he gained 3.7 pounds of muscle in 14 days. And I will tell you when I put them on the scanner and he spun around, his measurements were more and I was like what the heck, this guy lost weight.
Penny: You saw the pictures Brian, Huh,l Lupe. And when we did his body comp he had gained inches because he put on muscle because these lights not only a melt the fat, they help your body work better. And I will tell, you know with the Sjogren’s syndrome also comes peripheral neuropathy with some of the people and these lights also help with peripheral neuropathy. And I have patients come in the office from doctors’ offices that I’m treating for neuropathy and the results are phenomenal. I have one, one of my clients who has had a neuropathy for or five years after one treatment, his sharp pains went away, the achy pain went away, uh, within the fourth or fifth time, pretty much all the numbness in his toes went away. It was pretty, pretty amazing. He can feel 30% of his toes.
Penny: The other one who’s had for 13 years, it took a couple of treatments. He’s had longer, but it literally went from the below the knee to the top of the foot in very little time. So it’s, it’s pretty amazing. So we have that, we do the measurements. Like I said, in there we have the body comps, you can see what’s really happening and what’s really cool about the machine. And not only does it get rid of the fat and melt it, it also tightens the skin and produces collagen. And there’s a mask component. So you come in there and you put the mask on if you just want to do your face or you can do your whole body. It’s cool stuff. The thing is about it really is, it’s healing for the body.
Lupe: So I have a question. Um, the pictures that you showed us this guy, did he work out at all or it was just what you did in your office?
Penny: So I will tell you, so when you do these lights, I’ll just tell you when you do, when you get wrapped in the ultimate lights, you have to not eat carbohydrates for two days after you do the treatment the day of that you do. And the day after this guy was already doing that. So he didn’t change his diet at all because he was already doing it. And, and that was really good for me to see it. It wasn’t like someone all of a sudden just cut out the carbs. Okay. And He, I asked him to join any other exercise? I may be added a couple extra pushups and that was it. So he was working out. But it really got his system going and putting on muscle, I’ve been working out for over 30 years and I can tell you no matter how much protein I have and what I do, I’ve never gained 3.7 pounds of muscle in two weeks.
Brian: Quite again.
Penny: It’s quite, again, I’ll tell you. And then my other test clients, she actually lost the five pounds in 10 days and she’s still losing weight. But she changed her diet because for the, she couldn’t do the carbs for the two days after it. So for her, she dropped it a little faster, which is cool. And again, five pounds of solid fat water stayed the same. Her muscle didn’t go up as much. It was 0.23 but she didn’t lose muscle. And that’s when you’d go on a diet. You usually lose water and muscle, and that’s why people gain weight right away. Right. You’d like, oh my God, the scale went down, Woo. And then use going back to normal and you’re like, it went back up again because it really wasn’t fat that was lost. It was really water. Most of it.
Brian: Yeah. I mean I wrestled in high school and we would before weigh in two or three days, we would decrease our water intake. We would spit. And you, I mean day before weigh in your was just dry because you just deprived yourself to make your weight. Yeah, I did because I was, you know, kind of big so I had to cut all the time.
Penny: It’s Kind of like the bodybuilders too, right? They go on a special diet to so of course you can see all the muscles. Then they get rid of all the water. So then their weight changes as well. So it’s pretty cool. And like I said, I love treating you no, especially with the neuropathy I see peoples with back pain or the stress go away. You know, cause we really have to de stress our lives. Everything is caused by inflammation, you know, and really including even the Sjogren’s Syndrome, we have inflammation, in our body, you know, Alzheimer, what is it? It’s inflammation. Cancer. It’s inflammation. And I will tell you that every single thing out there, if we cut out the sugar, the processed sugar, it would help so many people. And I mean I, I’m a victim of it too, right? I mean, I can’t say that I’ve cut it out completely, but I will say that I’ve cut up at 80% of it, cause it’s hard cause the weed, I try to avoid it, but sometimes you eat a food and there could be cranberries in your salad that have sugar in it.
Penny: So there’s a lot of hidden things in our foods that we don’t know. So we actually did a test with a Lupe and Brian to check for food sensitivities. And so I can’t wait to hear how that’ll change. Um, how you feel and see if there’s a difference. I can wait to check back with you and see, you know, cutting out the foods, how you guys feel with that.
Lupe: Well, it’s interesting this test because, uh, it has different sections of veggies, dairy, nuts, stuff like that. And it lists the, it gives you percentages and the higher numbers, the higher percentages is what you’re supposed to eat, right?
Penny: Yeah. The higher the numbers on the test is what your body craves. What did it likes better in a kind of almost heals the body, let’s say. Yeah.
Lupe: And then at the end there’s a list of all these things that you’re not supposed to eat.
Penny: Yeah. The last page, everybody dreads looking at it. That’s why the way that the test is, we look at all the good foods first. But what I like about this test is it shows you foods that people forget that they can actually, um, eat right. And so like for me, when I got tested years ago, and that’s actually, I’ll tell you the things that I have my office, some of the testing is what I got tested on a few years back. That helped me get healthier because for me, when I got tested, my top foods were black tea, bananas and strawberries. And you think, wow, those are healthy. Right? But for me it was like poison to my body and I was eating half a banana going for a walk and about 15 minutes into my walk I could not complete my walk and I was slowly get myself home. So it was, it was really difficult. Or my kids like, oh there’s mom, she slowed down again.
Brian: Well I can tell you this, I’m happy coffee was not on my bad list, because life would have been over for me.
Lupe: You have so much.
Brian: I do
Lupe: all day every day.
Brian: It wasn’t on my good list but it definitely wasn’t on my bad list. So that’s a win in my mind.
Penny: I would say that’s one of the top things I hear like, oh my God, please don’t let coffee beyond that. But, but I’ll tell you like I told Brian and Lupe a told you guys earlier that if there’s a food that’s causing maybe you know a little bit of sensitivity to your body, we can cut it out usually for a week and then bring it back in because it’s sometimes it’s something we’re eating all the time. And I over id it with the strawberries and that’s what happened with me and I then I brought in the blueberries and then about six months later, because I was having blueberries every day and my protein shake, I had to pull those out just for a little bit. So
Brian: You know, it’s, it’s interesting, I’m looking forward to cutting out some of the things that are on my bad list. And there were a bananas, there were a lot of things. I like cucumbers on that bad list and you know, we’re, I’m, I’m going to give it a go, I’m going to pull them out and I want to increase the things on my good list, the ones with the higher numbers and we’ll see how I feel in a few weeks.
Lupe: Don’t cook too much. That’s on your good list. And it’s bad on my bad list.
Brian: Of course. Now I always cook for you.
Lupe: How are we going to do that?
Brian: We’ll make it work.
Lupe: You going to have to have a menu now.
Brian: Well we’ll, we’ll have to cross reference the list.
Lupe: That’s right. Uh, Penny. So talk to us about your book, the Fast Food Diet Cookbook.
Penny: So the Fast Foods Diet Cookbook, it’s a simple, quick and easy foods. So it’s not fast foods that you eat at a restaurant. It’s actually foods you can make quickly for your family. And I created the cookbook because I wanted to show people how easy it is to actually cook for your family very easily. Right? And, and like I have five chicken recipes, five beef and five Vegan and there’s eight sides and everything. Intermixes and I talk about, let’s say if you made a chicken dinner, right? Make extra chicken and you had roasted vegetables and you can take the rice and the day before and the next day you can actually go to the market and either make your own tomato soup. Or if you go to like to like trader Joe’s or something that, that has it in the carton where there’s no additives, no preservatives, you’re putting all the other fresh stuff that you made and you put it together and you have a quick meal for your family that is, um, nutritious and balanced. And you didn’t have to spend a lot of money either. Okay. So we’re all, you know, got our budgets and stuff
Brian: And for people with Sjogren’s, because we deal with this daily, it’s, I don’t want to take the time to cook something healthy because I’m tired. And this book has some great recipes in it, prep time, short cook time is short. And again, with leftovers you can repurpose and have a completely different meal with food you cooked the day before, which is awesome.
Penny: Yeah. And that’s why I didn’t, so when I, and last year actually went across the u s and did cooking segments on TV, showing people, um, how easy and simple it is. And that’s really what, um, the things I love to do is showing people how simple it is. I grew up in the restaurant business, my family, and um, it’s a casual dining restaurant or you can say it’s fast food, but we actually cook 99% of it in house. And so I would love to have you as the, the main thing really in to being healthy no matter what we might have is cutting out the sugar and cutting out the additives and preservatives. So important on the food. And then if we can exercise five days a week for 30 minutes for a heart, that’s really important.
Brian: So there’s going to be links in the show notes as always to Penny’s Facebook page Foskaris Wellness on Facebook. And you’ll go to her video section. You’ll see her cook these French Fries. And I’ve tried them, we’ve tried them with sweet potato and regular potato utilizing avocado oil instead of olive oil. So talk to us about the benefits of Avocado oil and then Lupe, how good were the fries?
Lupe: They were awesome. And you know what, I didn’t know that they were from her book.
Brian: They were from her book
Lupe: I thought it was on the you made up
Brian: My skills not that good
Lupe: taking credit?
Lupe: No, they were actually really good. I really enjoyed them.
Penny: So I like to use avocado oil because it’s a high heat oil. So olive oil is very, very healthy for you, but it’s good to be used maybe when you’re like I’m making a stew or a salads, right? Cause it’s cold, it’s cold pressed and we need uh, the high heat oils because what happens is when the oil’s breakdown, it becomes unhealthy. Depends on where the smoke point is. And then it was important for me to have those uh, oven baked fries, which tastes like French fries. And I will tell you with my fun, a segment to do was in Sacramento and the anchormen just could not believe like, oh my God, this is actually French Fries, It tastes like it. But actually it was done in the oven, because it really, really, really, um, they’re amazing.
Penny: And when we eat commercially fried foods, whether it’s French fries or anything else, the oil has been used over and over again. It becomes oxidized and broken down. And now it’s, it’s basically the kind of like a poison almost in our body. And now we actually have to eat antioxidants, right to help get out the free radicals. Okay. So that’s what ages us. So my favorite question to ask people is why shouldn’t we French fries and the like, well cause they’re fattening. I said, well that’s part of it, but not, I mean it can, you can make them healthy. But the main thing is, is that they’re cooked in oil that has become oxidized. Kind of like when you cut an apple and you, oh right, it becomes brown after you, we don’t usually cut that off because it’s become oxidized or even like metal becomes rust. We don’t use the metal until we, what we take off the rest. And so as we’re eating French fries, really we’re eating, um, oxidized food. And so now we actually have to repair our body with antioxidants. And just so you know which way to eat lots of antioxidants with all the different foods, the different colors, like the rainbow.
Lupe: So I actually didn’t know that. That’s interesting.
Brian: Well, you know, I’ve, I’ve been to a restaurant where you bite into a fry and you can taste fish. So I’m assuming they use that same oil to cook fish at some point. And I did not know the oil. I understand that it breaks down, but the whole oxidation I didn’t understand and how bad that was for us.
Penny: Yeah. And that’s why even when we get our snacks right, the store where like, okay. Um, the potato chips, right? are cooked in oil that has been used over again the same thing. And so a lot of times we’re wondering why we’re not feeling good. Sometimes it’s not, we don’t have a sensitivity to that food, but it’s the way that it was cooked. Yeah. Cause even really a fast snack be better than the chips would be the popcorn if it’s organic corn, if someone doesn’t have food sensitivities to it of course, because the popcorn was, it’s popped, right, the oil’s gone. It’s not, you don’t fry in it. So we have to look at when we eat our snacks as well and we’re giving our children our family different foods. How was it prepared? That really is important.
Lupe: Okay. So I have a question regarding, uh, you mentioned neuropathy because a lot of followers and listeners, they complain about that a lot.
Lupe: So I think that they’ll benefit from it. And it’s the wrap, right?
Penny: Yeah. You know, so the ultimate lights that that also melt the fat also help heal a lot of things, including neuropathy. And I do, like I said, I have patients that had sent to me from doctors that I helped with the neuropathy and, and we’ve been seen such amazing results. And so I’ll tell you, I’ve been doing testing with the doctors cause I want to get these in the hands of more doctors and wellness centers so we can have relief because there are so many different things that are, you know, be doing diabetes or Sjogren’s syndrome or back injuries if we can get some of the pain to go away, and also we can get, you know, the inflammation and the numbness, Because a lot of times, like I have clients to say I want to go work out, but I can’t feel my feet. I can’t work out because I, you know, my feet hurt or I can’t, like I said, I can’t feel it or they’re going to hurt their toe or something. So it’s so important. So for me, I’ve been doing a lot of testing with the doctors because I want to get these out to more places. So we will have relief.
Brian: You know, and we’ve discussed about other than Western medicine on this show before and we’ve shared things we’ve tried and at least go into it with an open mind. Give anything a try if you think it’s going to help.
Brian: Well Penny is there anything else you would like to leave us with before we close?
Penny: Just stay healthy, be mindful of what we eat and what we do.
Brian: Well, very cool. It’s been awesome having you here and it’s been awesome being at the wellness center. And again, links will be in the show notes below to the book to Penny on Facebook to her website. And we do understand that all of you aren’t here in the southern California area, but there may be a wellness center near you that has a lot of these tools and some of the products you sell, don’t you?
Penny: I do have products. Um, yeah, some doterra products and some other that are coming in the store. But I almost forgot to tell you all, because this is really important to me is anybody that comes from a charity and we provide services to them. 10% of whatever the price was that they spent, goes back to the charity that’s for the schools and churches also. That’s my way of giving back.
Brian: Which is very cool. And Penny’s actually done some work with the Warrior Bill Foundation, which I’m a part of as well. And the weird thing is I didn’t even know she knew somebody that knew them. And one day we’re on the phone and she’s like, yeah, I’m going down to this veteran place. I’m like, really? And light bulb moment.
Penny: That was really cool. Yeah.
Lupe: Three degrees of separation.
Brian: Yeah. Really, really well.
Penny: They actually have one of them, one of the pairs of the PSiO out down there, I donated to them. So that’s actually, I think that I’m doing is, is donating where they need to go as the money comes into the center.
Brian: Yeah. And the boys use him for, uh, to help with PTSD. Yeah. And um, they are, they love him. Awesome. Penny. Appreciate you being on the show.
Lupe: Thank you, penny.
Penny: Thank you so much. It’s great being here.
Lupe: We have discussed alternative treatments in the past and that trying something un-traditional may benefit you. In 1908 the car wasn’t traditional and look at them now. They drive themselves.
Lupe: Until next time. Sip constantly and stay hydrated.